Pep Guardiola as England supervisor is a beautiful concept however wouldn’t it work? Effectively it might if he managed at membership stage too.
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Simply make Everton into England FC and appoint Pep
Would Pep actually be nationwide group supervisor? He’s a supervisor that focuses on the minute particulars of formations, participant positioning and behavior so would he have the ability to adequately coach this into his gamers within the week and half he’d get 5 instances a 12 months? It’d be attention-grabbing to see in any case.
I discovered it very humorous how the pundits had been speaking about how England wanted a focus and Kane being again would give that to them. Harry Kane? Harry Kane the defensive midfielder, left again, proper midfielder? That Harry Kane?
I’ve an concept although. Why don’t the FA purchase a Premier League group and simply signal English gamers? Purchase Everton, make Pep the supervisor and play the identical group in internationals, you’d find yourself successful all the things.
BTW, Saka performs on the proper as a result of he’s a improbable participant and that’s his only place, it’s not rocket science.
SC, Belfast (Fascinated by the media circus surrounding what are friendlies with lipstick on)
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Southgate knew you want your Harry Maguires
Whereas Gareth Southgate didn’t win something, he was extra profitable in successful precise video games of knockout soccer than any supervisor in latest historical past regardless of some truly first rate managers attempting their hand. How about fascinated about why that was for a begin, what did he try this others didn’t? (slightly than fixed knee-jerk reactions to every solitary sport)
Firstly, he was fairly good at ignoring the followers and media frenzy to play whoever was in kind for his or her membership. Equally, he didn’t drop gamers who had a nasty run for his or her membership. And moreover, he didn’t throw gamers below the bus. He constructed a core of gamers and remained loyal to them. Some use this as a follow beat him with nevertheless it was attention-grabbing to listen to one mailboxer say they missed Maguire yesterday. That core of gamers was Southgate’s greatest asset and sadly some key ones weren’t obtainable (Shaw) or injured (Kane) on the incorrect instances.
England’s greatest downside is that the one England matches which can be taken severely are match soccer (which doesn’t embody this silly Nations League malarkey) and the few video games earlier than that the place gamers are vying for choice. All different video games are glorified friendlies whereby golf equipment are reluctant to launch gamers and managers are pressured to attempt gamers they in all probability didn’t need to. But the media nonetheless choose the group efficiency as if each sport was a knockout sport. I’m unsure if the usual match favourites of Germany/Spain/Italy/Frace deal with internationals the identical approach? Does anybody know?
Gareth realised that his finest likelihood of successful something was by getting a squad collectively that had been used to enjoying collectively. When half the group should not used to enjoying collectively it’s little shock that a few coaching classes earlier than the sport isn’t going to make them play like world beaters. Maguire is an ideal instance, regardless of actually powerful instances at Utd he’s rewarded Southgate’s religion with largely good England performances.
Southgate’s greatest criticism is that he performed with the handbrake on. Sadly, that’s what worldwide soccer is all about, it’s extra about not shedding than it’s about successful. Greece, Norway and a poor Italy aspect have received tournaments with comparatively poor sides constructed on defending and never shedding. We’d all prefer to play with out the handbrake on however I feel the one approach you get to that is by having a robust core of gamers which can be used to enjoying collectively and the defensive solidity that enables the group to go ahead extra.
We don’t have to shoehorn one of the best gamers into the England group. We want a core of 16-18 gamers {that a} supervisor sticks with and solely brings in new gamers when he has to. As one other mailboxer talked about, one of the best groups don’t have 5 or 6 aptitude gamers, they could have 2 or 3 and even simply the one.
Lastly, I feel Southgate constructed his group round a core of stable gamers realising that aptitude gamers additionally include their deficiencies. The media and the person within the pub suppose we should always construct the group across the aptitude gamers. We have to decide gamers to swimsuit a system, not a system to swimsuit the gamers. Gareth favoured Kane, Walker, Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Rice, Rashford, Shaw, Sterling, Trippier and Henderson. You possibly can criticise all of those gamers for one thing however what they’ve in frequent is that they’re/had been stable and reliable – you recognize what you’re getting from them and a nasty sport was a 7/10.
Regardless of the system a brand new supervisor decides on, gamers like Rice, Mainoo, Maguire, Guehi, Stones must be the primary sort of names on the group sheet as they’re sq. pegs in sq. holes. Proceed to place one of the best sq. pegs in sq. holes, a few of these aptitude gamers will nonetheless match however we undoubtedly can’t get too lots of Foden, Saka, Grealish, Belligham, TAA, Gordon, Palmer, Watkins, Gomes, Toney in with out the group missing in steadiness or just defensive capability.
And a few of the ones that don’t make it will likely be good to have off the bench once we want them.
Jon, Cape City (I did giggle at somebody slating Chelsea for a way they fared towards a run of groups in a mean of tenth place – the longer the season goes on everybody faces groups in a mean of tenth place, that’s how maths works buddy and that’s precisely what you might be measured towards)
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Why England managers fail
Johnny Nic is correct to level out the simplistic nature of a lot of the criticism levelled at England managers. However he then proceeds to counsel a proof of England’s perennial underachievement which is simply as drained and foolish. The gamers aren’t ok.
Come on, Johnny, a person of your intelligence can certainly do higher than that. You sound like precisely the pub bore you’re presumably making an attempt to lampoon. The reality is that England’s lack of trophies is all the way down to a mixture of things, the relative affect of which naturally shifts over time.
Throughout the Sven period, I might contend our gamers had been actually ok however we had been held again by a supervisor with very restricted tactical nous. Throughout the Greenwood years, the gamers had been very clearly NOT ok despite the fact that we had a sensible, forward-thinking supervisor. You get the concept.
The percentages on any group aligning each single success issue at any given time are vanishingly small. That’s why (as a latest Mailboxer identified) Man U have solely had two eras of sustained success, Liverpool two/three and most golf equipment none in any respect. On the lookout for catch-all options to something is naive. Life and soccer are slightly extra difficult than that.
Matt Pitt
Johnny is correct…and incorrect
The John Nicholson article on English gamers virtually hit the nail on the top.
Most of England’s gamers at this time are overrated by followers and the media.
I’ve the identical angle he does to English exceptionalism, I even caught myself doing it driving by France, asking myself why they don’t have toll cubicles for proper hand drive vehicles, earlier than, metaphorically, slapping myself…. why would they!
Nevertheless, while we should settle for England gamers are typically overhyped, it’s necessary to concede there are a couple of genuinely ‘world class’ gamers within the squad. A pair could fall into the ‘arguably’ class, they have a tendency to play for Arsenal, however Trent Alexander Arnold and Jude Bellingham are each ‘within the high drawer’.
Nevertheless, let’s additionally acknowledge that when England get a very nice participant, actually from an attacking perspective, they get (by managers, followers and Media alike) dragged down, their flaws highlighted.
Bellingham, for my part, is a (for England at the very least) generational expertise, however the criticism geared toward him was unbelievable through the Euros.
Alexander-Arnold is one of the best participant, in his place, on this planet and could be an absolute first group starter for Brazil, Italy, France, Spain and so forth, however in England it’s ‘he can’t defend’ (he can defend, he’s truly fairly good at it, simply to not Maldini ranges).
Matt Le Tissier, earlier than he purchased shares in a tinfoil hat firm, received 8 caps, EIGHT! And, it’s broadly accepted Glenn Hoddle ought to have had greater than 53 appearances.
You may go even additional again with Len Shackleton and his 5 caps, ready 5 years between caps 3 and 4, with selectors telling the press ‘we play at Wembley, not the London palladium’.
The purpose is, that is nothing new.
English followers and media and even managers, construct up the mediocre and assault the actually nice.
I ponder what number of instances these studying this have watched Spain, Argentina and the like, seen a participant and thought ‘actually? They begin for them!’ (Admit it you probably did it while you noticed Cucurella at left again for Spain didn’t you).
That is largely as a result of different nations don’t attempt to ‘shoehorn’ all their finest gamers into the group. They decide a formation primarily based round one or two of their finest gamers and match everybody else round that. Taking part in gamers of their precise positions.
England have to do extra of that, even when it means enjoying Ron Benson of Plymouth Argyle.
They’re nonetheless unlikely to win something and followers, managers and particularly the media will proceed to have unrealistic expectations.
All in video games that the majority suppose at the moment are an annoying distraction… however that’s for one more mailbox.
Graham
Participant burn-out and the American fashions
I really like the false equivalents.
After the potential/never-in-a-million-years strike of soccer gamers primarily based on 0.1% of gamers feeling that enjoying 70 video games a 12 months (a la Rodri), I began to listen to a load of drivel about the truth that the NFL solely play 15-25 video games a 12 months and but the NFL makes extra money than soccer or some such garbage.
It in fact misses the purpose that AMERICAN soccer is barely performed within the USA and subsequently gamers don’t want to fret about worldwide matches. After all, if the NFL mannequin is the best way to go we should additionally reference that the NFL has grown the game and income by enjoying video games exterior of the USA enjoying not solely within the UK but additionally in Mexico, Germany and Brazil, when the premier league floated this the nation went into soften down.
After soccer/soccer the most well-liked sport by way of what number of nations it performed in could be basketball which additionally has credible worldwide tournaments.
So what number of video games are performed within the NBA season, effectively 82 in the usual season then as much as 110 extra video games for groups that get to the top of the play offs (or so my 10mins analysis said), along with this there are all-star video games in addition to the Olympics and World cup each 4 years.
I do know individuals will say basketball is “non-contact” however it’s a quick tempo sport with plenty of twisting and turning so I assume the gamers get injured and drained.
To be sincere, I’m unsure how equal it’s to match, nevertheless I’d love for certainly one of your readers from the USA to state in the event that they suppose soccer/soccer gamers play a variety of video games in comparison with basketball gamers?
The few dwell basketball video games I’ve seen there appears to be greater squads and far more substitutions, certainly that is how soccer/soccer will evolve as a substitute of pretending we’ll regress to enjoying much less video games?
Paul Ok, London
My membership’s greater than your membership…
MAW, you baited me in, and I get reeled in like your favourite fish. As a result of GODDAMN the irony of claiming that if you happen to ever brag about successful a cup like United did, you’ll really feel like a Spurs fan, when you brag about successful nothing as an Arsenal fan.
Let’s hold it clear, you’ll by no means really feel that trigger you haven’t received ANYTHING. Therefore you might be EXACTLY like Spurs mate. You say cups aren’t learn how to outline how United continues to be in 2024 greater and doing higher than Arsenal, then how else can we outline greater and higher between your “World Class” Arsenal and my “Absolute Garbage” Manchester United??
Cups received since Arteta? Not even shut
Cups received earlier than Arteta? Nonetheless not shut
Income? Not even shut
Income? Not even shut
Social Media? No comparability
Followers? Attain? Worldwide influence? Not even shut
Even on the stupidest metric, we’re greater.
So please MAW, apart from “vibes”, the one factor that Arsenal EXCEL in is NOT WINNING. You understand who holds the RECORD for many 2nd place finishes/first losers? The one that you love Arsenal, since you lot are specialists in failure as I recall somebody saying. So yeah, we could also be absolute trash in enjoying soccer for a decade, however in that point we nonetheless managed a couple of cups and a mini European trophy, when you lot have received a couple of FA cups below Wenger, and ONE cup in 5 years and ZERO cups in 4 years below Arteta.
However keep it up, no matter helps you consider Arsenal as “huge”. Leicester are greater mate, at the very least they received some trophies that matter and didn’t cry on a few “course of” for half a decade. Chelsea & Liverpool are greater with a EPL title and European CL within the final decade. Even Moyes/WHU received a third price European Trophy. The one membership you could combine round is together with your beloved Spurs who’ve received 1 much less trophy than you within the Arteta Period. United could also be shit, however we won’t be referred to as shit by a membership that’s completely beneath us 😉
Cheers and have an exquisite day.
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